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OnDaFence 36M/44M
44267 posts
1/19/2018 7:34 pm

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3/31/2018 12:39 pm

California Split Up



California is known for its beaches and beautiful weather, however, not everyone loves the political climate of the Golden State. On January 15th, a campaign began to create a state called New California by splitting California into two separate states. This is not like the dope smoking, ragged out, old hippy protests of Calexit fame that followed Trump's election.



Unlike other separation movements in the past, the state of New California wants to do things by the book, citing Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution and working with the state legislature to get it done. This is based on the same constitutionally approved method that West Virginia used when it broke away from Virginia.




The group is organized with committees and a council of county representatives, but says it will take 10 to 18 months before they are ready to fully engage with the state legislature. The state of New California would incorporate most of the state's rural counties, leaving the urban coastal counties to the current state of California.



"it's been ungovernable for a long time. High taxes, second rate education, you name it, and we're rated around 48th or 50th from a business climate and standpoint in California," said founder Robert Paul Preston.

>>>Here are six things that could happen if New California becomes a state.<<<

1. Two new Republican Senate seats could be added.

“New California” would encompass the state’s rural counties that feel lost among the left coast’s liberalism. With the addition of a new state, two new Senate seats would have to be added. And given the demographics of the new state, it’s likely these senators would be Republicans.

2. Old California would lose some of its House seats.

Since seats in the House of Representatives are allocated based on population, dividing California in two would cause would cause old California to have less sway in the House. Advocates for New California say that it would have 25-27 seats in the House. California currently has 53 seats in the House.

3. New California would be the sixth largest state.

According to the New California movement’s website, the proposed area would have a population of about 15 million, making it the sixth largest state after New York. Old California would be the second largest state with a population of 25 million.

4. The new state would probably have lower taxes.

The movement’s founder, Robert Paul Preston told CBS Sacramento that he wants to create New California partially because of the way California is taxed. Because of this, it’s safe to assume that the areas included in New California would be taxed at lower rates.

5. But it would lose a lot of income.

Coastal areas, including Silicon Valley and Los Angeles, remain in old California under Preston’s proposal, meaning the new state would lose a lot of revenue from income tax. L.A. County alone generated almost a quarter of California’s tax revenue in 2013, and Silicon Valley (San Mateo and Santa Clara counties) generated 17 percent of state income tax revenue.

6. New California counties might lose recreational marijuana.

California just legalized recreational pot on January 1st. It’s unclear what New California would do about recreational marijuana, but it’s entirely possible that the slightly more conservative state would reverse California’s legalization.



I am thinking a lot of this is brought about by the utter disgust felt by the rest of the state when the liberal controlling elitists of the coastal region forced the Sanctuary State Law though the legislature and governor moonbeam signed it. If this strategy works it might also be followed in Illinois to rid themselves of Chicago and New York to divest themselves from NYC. Time will tell

OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/19/2018 7:39 pm

New California will not lose a lot of income, those big tech companies will move for lower taxes


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/19/2018 7:41 pm

This actually has a chance to happen. Its going to be fun to watch at least! We should see quite a few total liberal meltdowns over this.


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/19/2018 7:43 pm

A LOT of people in California want this. You'd be surprised.


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/19/2018 7:45 pm

That map pretty much follows the San Andreas fault. One of these days the two will separate whether anyone wants to or not.


Hungr4Yungr 75M
5766 posts
1/19/2018 8:23 pm

That's an interesting hypothesis, Bret. It will be fun to see if anything happens.


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/19/2018 9:32 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    That's an interesting hypothesis, Bret. It will be fun to see if anything happens.
This split up is coming from determined legal minds that are fed up footing the bills the loopy libs come up with. Would you believe one city believes low income families deaserve days at the beach and have provided bus vouchers for them to use to spend a day at the beach at tax payer's expense.


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/19/2018 9:35 pm

    Quoting txbuffalo_btm:
    If you look at a map showing counties/parishes across the country and how they voted during the last, miserable, election, most of the rural areas were blue (republican) while the metropolitan areas were red ( democratic). That even held true in this state...

    All just proves the divide between metropolitan and rural.
You're pretty much correct if we take into account the minorities and illegals tend to congregate in urban areas.


jrodd 65M
4396 posts
1/20/2018 6:18 am

I do recall the prophecy of Edgar Cayce his psychic prediction that Callifornia would split and fall onto the ocean. Perhaps sometimes a psychic like him can misinterpret his vision and in fact it may have been a political split up . Weird too that the split in the middle of those two Californian microstates seem to have the split um aproximatly coinciding with the San Andreas fault line. Is this a coincidence or what?


bychance4709 61M

1/20/2018 8:42 am

So then in "old" California it will probably be mandated that a greeting isn't "hey dude" but "comrade".


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/20/2018 11:32 am

    Quoting jrodd:
    I do recall the prophecy of Edgar Cayce his psychic prediction that Callifornia would split and fall onto the ocean. Perhaps sometimes a psychic like him can misinterpret his vision and in fact it may have been a political split up . Weird too that the split in the middle of those two Californian microstates seem to have the split um aproximatly coinciding with the San Andreas fault line. Is this a coincidence or what?
It could be.. or if the Biblical disaster occurs and the Sodom of the USA falls into the ocean the split follows the San Andreas.


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/20/2018 11:33 am

    Quoting bychance4709:
    So then in "old" California it will probably be mandated that a greeting isn't "hey dude" but "comrade".
Their Comrade has not turned out so well and is fermenting the split.


wcfields2009 78M
1355 posts
1/22/2018 4:33 am

None of this will matter much since the entire state will break off and float into the ocean when the "big one" hits in a little while.


OnDaFence 36M/44M

1/22/2018 9:55 pm

    Quoting wcfields2009:
    None of this will matter much since the entire state will break off and float into the ocean when the "big one" hits in a little while.
The libtards can have their own little off shore paradise only problem the illegals will have to swim to it.


OnDaFence 36M/44M

3/31/2018 12:37 pm

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OnDaFence 36M/44M

3/31/2018 12:38 pm

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OnDaFence 36M/44M

3/31/2018 12:39 pm

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OnDaFence 36M/44M

3/31/2018 12:39 pm

From the looks of things Those of us REAL GUYS who have just one profile and follow the rules are going to have to stand up and band together against the negative few with a multitude of FAKE PROFILES. Keep our messages positive, without negative attacks and those REAL MEMBERS of OP will stand with us and support us.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


OnDaFence 36M/44M

3/31/2018 12:39 pm

From the looks of things Those of us REAL GUYS who have just one profile and follow the rules are going to have to stand up and band together against the negative few with a multitude of FAKE PROFILES. Keep our messages positive, without negative attacks and those REAL MEMBERS of OP will stand with us and support us.........................................